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A Night With Neil French

Brett McKenzie
Lead Writer
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On Monday, October 3rd at approximately 1:00 PM, Neil French, Worldwide Creative Director of WPP, touched down at Toronto’s Lester B. Pearson International Airport, his very first trip to Canada. At that very moment, way on the other side of the tarmac, Political Correctness was just boarding a plane to some far off destination. Nobody knows where PC was going or who went with him, but he sure as f*ck wasn’t staying while Frenchie was in town.

Fast forward to Thursday evening at the John Bassett Theatre. After months of planning and running about, weeks of promotion (re: Ignacio and those blast mails) and a few days of agency visits, cigars and potent beverages, ihaveanidea would finally see all the hard work pay off. As people gathered in the reception hall, the careful observer would notice that the crowd didn’t only consist of the “usual suspects”, Toronto creatives and students looking to booze and schmooze. No, this time around the crowd consisted of many people on the client side, as well as advertising people from across the globe. Several students from the big American advertising schools such as VCU Adcenter made the trip to Canada, as did many of the top creative talent, such as Bobby Pawar VP of BBDO Chicago and Steve Hayden, Vice Chairman and Worldwide Creative Director of Ogilvy. This definitely wasn’t going to be a typical evening!

As the lights dimmed and the crowd hushed, a flamenco guitarist took to the stage. Accompanied by a trio of dancers and First Light imagery of bullfighting (one of Neil’s passions), Roger Scannura helped get the audience ready for the events to follow. After the wonderful performance, ihaveanidea’s own Ignacio Oreamuno stepped to the podium, gave a brief speech, said a few thank-yous and introduced everyone to the stars of the evening, American ad greats Rick Boyko and Mark Fenske, and the legend himself, Mr. Neil French.

As a tribute to the country where A Night With Neil French was taking place, the stage was set up like a northern Ontario lakeside cottage, with lots of Canadian paraphernalia, including a stuffed beaver, moose antlers and a snowmobile that looked circa WWI. While I somehow doubt French is familiar with Bob & Doug McKenzie of SCTV fame, the hoser-esque ambience certainly helped keep the evening a laid back affair.

The show began in earnest with Fenske showing French a series of popular TV spots, in order to get his thoughts on them. These included Bensimon Byrne’s classic “Rant”, Weiden + Kennedy London’s award magnet “Grrr” and the ad which Neil predicted would win the 2006 Cannes Grand Prix, George Patterson Partners Melbourne’sBig Ad” for Carlton Draught. Of course, Neil’s responses were never cut and dry, but rather segues into entertaining stories about his past experiences, only interrupted by an attractive “French Maid” (get it?) delivering rounds of drinks for the guests. Hint to anyone who might have an opportunity in the future to buy Neil a drink: he likes Jack and Coke.

At times very thought provoking, at other times simply hilarious, and frequently both, Neil took us through some of his own creative work, as well as discussed his current role as the Godfather of WPP’s creative. He discussed his admiration and appreciation for clients (a rare step in the creative world) as well as his disdain for account executives (far from a rare step for creatives.) When questions came up from the audience, he answered them with brutal honesty, even if some of his answers wouldn’t likely sit well with the person who asked. Such openness was to be expected; Neil has a reputation for being opinionated well beyond the realms of political correctness, and he was in fine form that evening.

For those who weren’t in attendance but heard whispers about the evening, you most likely heard about the part when Neil’s musings turned toward the topic of women in advertising. Yes, the tension in the room definitely raised a few notches when Neil had some pretty harsh words for the females in creative. A number of people squirmed in their seats, and a few even got up and left the event altogether. However, whether you agreed with Neil’s views or not, or whether you thought HE believed what he was saying, or just turned up his opinions for shock value (as showmen tend to do) the majority of the crowd hung on his every word. There was a great moment of levity when an audience member asked Neil what he’d come back as if reincarnation existed, and Boyko and Fenske answered “an accounts guy! A FEMALE accounts guy!” Neil sheepishly admitted that if karma were real, they’d probably be right.

The evening continued on with more questions from the audience, and wrapped up neatly with French not wishing to keep everybody out too late. On the contrary; I don’t think I looked at my watch the entire evening, and I’m sure I wouldn’t be alone in saying the three of them could’ve gone on even longer.

If there was one disappointment for us at ihaveanidea, it was the number of empty seats at the John Bassett Theatre that evening. While we certainly thank the individuals and ad agencies who attended A Night With Neil French, and the feedback we’ve received thus far has been overwhelmingly positive, we can’t help but wonder what would have encouraged more of Toronto’s ad community to attend. Maybe the ticket prices were too high, or the awareness too low. Maybe more ads in the Globe would’ve really hit home the fact that we were bringing these advertising legends to our city. Or perhaps we just shouldn’t have scheduled the event so close to the beginning of hockey season (shootouts are a bitch, eh?) Whatever the reason, expect us at ihaveanidea to work even harder to make the next event even better.

Extra special thanks to our partners First Light, Ogilvy and our media sponsor The Globe & Mail, as well as Paradigm Events and studiom for all your help.

And of course, Rick Boyko, Mark Fenske and one and only Neil French.

Political Correctness, he’s gone, you’re free to come back home.

The flamenco show alludes to Neil's bullfighting past.
Rick Boyko, Managing Director of VCU Adcenter introduces Neil.

The French maid delivers.
Neil takes the spotlight.
Ignacio and Mark Fenske

The cast and crew of "A Night With Neil French"
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COMMENTS
Great night, thanks IHAI and all involved.
Posted by Steve
Incredible evening, entertaining and engaing, and of course controversial. Huge thanks to ihaveanidea. You know, for a bunch of 'nobodies' you sure know how to shake up this Canadian ad industry. Keep on doing like those Adidas spots Neil showed, because in everything you do, you're proving that Impossible is Nothing.

Spektak, what did you do to have Neil talk about you onstage? I'm sure French is not susecptible to any bribe that you could afford.
Posted by Deltone
Great article, Thanks.
Posted by joeytomatoes
How about the rest of us lesser mortals who couldn't make it to the show... like me here in Chennai, India. Would it be too much to ask for what conspired at the show in more detail? Because you've only made me hungry for more of the dope with what you've given in here.
Posted by Rajesh
Any chance you could put up a video of the night at some point?
Posted by Marc Lucas
Rajesh and Marc Lucas,

I'm sure we'll have a bit of video up here soon, but why settle for soundbytes when you can get the whole thing and more?

http://www.ihaveanidea.org/neilfrench/dvd/
Posted by Brett
Would Neil want to come to Perth for a night or two????? I can't wait to watch the DVD. Specially to know what he had to say about FEMALE in creative... Being one myself. I'm a great fan of Neil. No really would he come to Perth????
Posted by Deena
There's been so much controversy over Neil French's remarks about women. Why isn't anyone publishing transcripts? Asking people to purchase the DVD to learn the facts seems like this is all some publicity stunt to make money. Please respect your visitors by offering the truth. Print some transcripts! Thank you.
Posted by JulieM
here is another take on the whole night, a fairly balanced if underwhelmed assessment (rather than an inditement)

http://diablogue.typepad.com/diablogue/2005/10/an_evening_with.html
Posted by Ess Gee
Print some transcripts?
Posted by Anonymous
Given the brou-ha-ha and accusations of mysogeny, it doesn't seem unreasonable to ask for a transcript.
Posted by Marc Lucas
Boyko, Ad great???

To think that the mighty Neil French is being taken down by a bunch of hormonal hystericals.
Creatives are now being punsihed for being creeative--for spekaing openly.
If you examine Neil's comments closely, they are actually complimentary to women and practical from a managerial point of view.

ABP
Posted by Reality Check
Reality Check,

How can we examine his comments closely when no one has publically published antyhing? If they are complementary, why did Nancy Vonk take such offense? The few quotes and responses don't sound complementary or practical to me. I wish soemone would print a transcript. Hormonal hystericals? You seem to fit in just right with Niel French.
Posted by JulieM
Sorry guys – I wanted to support this event but had another commitment so couldn’t fill a seat.

I did read the well-written account by Hilton Barbour on Diablogue http://diablogue.typepad.com/diablogue/2005/10/an_evening_with.html .

Well now it has been confirmed that Neil French lives in the same world as the rest of us who have to answer to colleagues, clients, bosses and shareholders. Ad Age reports that he is now toast (Controversial creative chief out at WPP http://adage.com/news.cms?newsId=46461 )

This is going to make a perfect case study on the risk-rewards of "breaking through." Is it best to create "safe" communications that build brands and allow people to keep their jobs? Or is it more effective to engage the audience to the point where you challenge what they find reasonable and risk a backlash?

If you have nothing at risk the questions are easy to answer. Go for the risky - it makes for a better spectator sport. Neil French loves bullfighting - and the best bullfighters are audacious and stay close to the horns of the bull. Occasionally they lose a testicle or two, which is gripping to watch even if you detest bullfighting.

If you want to see a compelling argument for being controversial and holding out against the safe you should read the beautifully crafted speech by the legendary art director George Lois that he gave at the American Magazine Conference on Oct. 18, 2005. (It is posted on Adage.com – otherwise Google it.)

This is how he ends the speech: “For those editors and editorial designers who are handcuffed by their self-imposed insistence on sicko-fan covers (accompanied by a cacophony of story lines), who take comfort in the belief that “idea” covers cannot sell in today’s media culture, why doesn’t one brave, talented editorial team in this audience go to work and change the face of magazines by proving what I know to be true: Great magazine covers with big, edgy ideas that make powerful statements about America’s politics and culture – through wit, irony, and even ambiguity – can force-feed an irresistible taste of a magazine’s content and, issue after issue, create a titanic stir in the American psyche.”

Lois took risks and Esquire magazine grew from a circulation of 500,000 to 2 million. But that is not what made the covers significant. America in the 60s became a better place because of his ideas that ran against the mainstream grain. It happened because he, along with the writers and the editor Harold Hayes were courageous.

What is the best approach? Want a simple answer? There are none. That’s why marketing communications needs experience and it takes skill and judgment. It also helps if there is respect, civility, teamwork etc. which is maybe why Neil French just lost a testicle.

Keep up the good work folks – our community needs Ihaveanidea !
Posted by Tom Beakbane
Did he resign or was he canned? Either way, does that satisfy the bloodlust that's fomented around this whole situation?

http://e.ccialerts.com/a/hBDV4WWAHJQfmAUDSLFAJDxq02f/clck2
Posted by Marc Lucas
the death of a brand.

R.I.P.

http://flickr.com/photos/slowmotionlandscape/sets/1122921/
Posted by Anonymous
I wonder how many people are kicking themselves now, wishing they had attended this event. I know I am. One, because I heard from a friend that it was extremely entertaining, and two, with all of the fallout that has stemmed from this is intriguing. This is probably the first time anything related to Canada has shaken up the international advertising world. Including Vim.
Posted by Melly Collie
JulieM
Thank you , I do fit in with Neil.
I don;t drink Kool aid.
I dont jump on band wagons
I don't think anyone who knows Neil or of him thinks that he has held women back in any way,
(except maybe with some leather straps in southesat asia back in the 80's)
There were many more CREATIVE ways to respond to Neil's obviously insensitive and poorly thought out comments. To remove him from the business does none of us any good.

Dont get me wrong, I understand and agree with the upset, but i think the punishment is now one meted out on all of us.
ABP
Posted by Reality Check
To remove him from the business does everyone good, including Neil French. Perhaps you should consider joining him.
Posted by JulieM
Very nice. Pithy at least. You have a future in packaged goods.
Maybe Neil was wrong --about most women being clever that is...
Posted by Reality Check
Julie. if the problem is systemic, how does his removal specifically do you any good? Unless you are now empowered to get the next guy who says "hey sweetcheeks" to you fired, the struggle that women have didn't magically get one iota easier.
Posted by Anonymous
Anonymous,

I was responding to Reality Check's contention that French's removal does none of us any good.

One less discriminating sexist does us all good. Maybe it will discourage other scumbags. Maybe not. But I'll take things one victory at a time, thank you.
Posted by JulieM
By the way, since this wasn't a sexist event, who is the hot babe in the maid's outfit serving Neil drink on stage? (see pictures above)
Is this, perhaps, Canadian womens' idea of how to properly portray women. If so, I take back everything I have written. You ladies are right on target! (yes, this is meant to be facetious for those of you who already have their panties tightly in a wad)

But seriously, why aren't you writing about that ?

That one lovely outfit probably did more to degrade women that anything Neil has ever said!

Now I can't take any of this seriously.
Do I hear opportunistic?
Do I hear hypocritical?
Posted by Reality Check
Forget the French maid, the woman in the tight leather pants on the far left of the last photo received even more onstage attention during the show.
Posted by In Attendance
Political Correctness 1

Bumlickycrawlie 0
Posted by Comedy Central
All I would like to say is that ladies no worries, our time is coming shortly, we all know that 80% of decision making related to money spending comes through us - ladies. All those man with their dated views who got stuck in the last century are nothing more than a lesson in ancient history, and I do hear all of us saying we have to deal with some of it every day, but maybe instead of that we should just focus our energies on the jobs we love. And instead of getting mad getting even better at them! That's the best response we can ever give...
Posted by Ola
I take no offense to Neils comments, I am a lesbian and will not be taking time off to suckle a baby, consenting women perhaps, but no babies definitely.
Posted by Cherie
Julie: Talk is cheap. Post your book. Those who lack skill always blame their failings on everything but their own failings. Neil French may be a pig - but he can write and he can think and he has done it for decades. If you can do better, do it. If you can't, shut up and admit that a chubby, old bald guy with a big mouth is more talented than you are.
Posted by Mary
Perhaps Mr. French needs a change in scenery ( away from WPP ) and comments such as his just might serve its purpose; people, often enough... usually get promoted to their rightful level of incompetence. Good luck you silly man!
Posted by John Stevenson
Never heard of this Neil character till I saw the news.

So, who is this Neil ?

Did Neil ever serve in the military?

Has Neil ever been disciplined, gone through hardships? or is he basically a spoiled rich boy? (Wonder how long Neil would endure in a Nazi camp, a place my Mother survived and if you entered with a feisty attitude like Neil, it would be knocked out of you).

Does Neil have any criminal record?

Does Neil drink heavily or use drugs?

How has Neil treated his family? Has he ever been arrested for raping or beating his wife, daughter or other females? Harming kids or animals?
Posted by A.V.
Mary: I'm not sure where your hostility is coming from. But if I didn't know better, I'd guess you're actually a man. What are you seeking to accomplish by attacking other people commenting here? Let's focus on the topic at hand, please.
Posted by something about mary
Well I hope Ms Vonk is happy now. It seems to me a very small triumph for womankind, and a giant disaster for WPP.
Still, I suppose she has ensured she will be remembered, if not for her work, for having engineered the removal of an advertising great. Shame.
Posted by Simon Peters
No matter what his personal views about women in advertising, there's no denying that Neil is legend. Would those in attendance have preferred that he not be himself and instead said what was politically correct? Tough sh*t if people were offended. How often is it that we are in the industry are told to create advertising that draws some form of emotion? Neil did that and now he is being scolded. Instead of people getting so bent out of shape and walking out of the Evening, or quitting their jobs, why not take him up on his statements? Challenge him and perhaps change his perceptions instead of sitting back sheepishly.
Posted by Russell
What the?
Makes me wonder how professional (read expert) is this industry when I read from this posting:
"Maybe the ticket prices were too high, or the awareness too low."
Duh!
Je-e-s! And corporate clients pay you guys!
I'm just a passing surfer who is interested in the business but my goodness, what a disappointment.
And, sure, I just "don't know enough to evaluate the situation" - BULL!
Are there copywriters dedicated to scripting excuses for accounts receivable?
Posted by Bill Cooksey
AV, Your point is.....?
Posted by Simon Peters
Wow! Talk about a storm in a teacup - this kind of thing ( top ad creatives leaving for kinder pastures ), has been going on since Pa fell off the Bus. The list of creatives/geniuses who changed the face of advertising ( in their time) is as long as your arm and any adman - or WOMAN, who thinks he/she/it is the wonder of the age, is in for a hell of a shock. Advertising creatives, by definition, have a big ego, an ego that is driven by the notion that the world would cease to exist if they hopped of the Planet. All this talk of sexist's, Alpha Males and the like is surely a joke intended to up the ante in the so called war of the sexes? If not, it makes for juvenile copy, when the bigger issue here is not US, but the Planet! Come on all you self indulgent creatives, get a life, A REAL LFE!!!
Robin Hood
Posted by skabernga
I was at the event, and all I wish now is that ihaveanidea releases the DVD to the public and the media. Then everyone will see how ridiculously overblown it has become.

It's funny to note how the theatre was only about half full. After all of this attention, you can almost guarantee the next ihaveanidea event won't have to worry about that problem.

Keep up the amazing work Ignacio and everybody else! You wanted to change advertising and congratulations, you've done it.
Posted by S. Greene
Julie, take heart. I agree with you. Initially, I found Vonk's comparison's with racism unnecessary, but after reading how people have attacked you, it definitely reminds me of how some people here, in the good ol' American South, coddled and protected racists because they were "prominent" or "brilliant" or (fill in the appropriate adjective). For some, that was a lot easier than admitting you agreed with their stance. And I definitely feel some level of agreement from your attackers--despite the claims to the contrary.

Why does being good at what you do give you the right to deride and denigrate others? How long do we have to do what Vonk and others did/do and "take the good with the bad" when the bad is so nasty? And why is he a "victim" of political correctness? He is a victim of his own mouth, his antiquated ideas, and more than a bit of ego.

I read that French is unrepentant. Good for him; stand by what you say no matter how ignorant or repugnant to some. And, apparently, he was ready to suffer the consequences--also admirable. Some of his supporters here should take a cue--stop the defenses of him that you claim are based on a love for his talent or a dislike for political correctness and admit how you really feel about what he said. Might be cathartic--if you're willing to take a stand like French.

Oh, and women, at least in the US, don't worry. Our time is definitely coming--have you noted the statistics that say we are graduating college in higher numbers, in varied fields, on all levels? Imagine the day the Neil Frenches of the world will have to answer to us "wimps"... but of course, a college degree will probably, magically become "not necessary" if these trends continue...
Posted by kay
Women are diferent and therefore deserve different treatment. We do suckle things, so arrangements must be made to allow for that. I want a room in my agency where I can pump milk for my baby. Then if I must work long hurs I am comfortable. I want daycare on site, so that I don't have to make excuses trying to get out at a reasonable hour. Equality and respect please.
Posted by nyc
It would have been a memorable evening, regardless. The flamenco guitar playing, the dancing and the singing charged the spirits. The set supported Neil's comments about Canadian advertising not being on the world's radar screen, "with the exception of Taxi". The questions were carefully crafted and the answers scathing. It was an engaging evening - with French maid designed to entertain or further irk - listening to an advertising person with a reputation for having something to say being outrageous and having something to say. I kept waiting for something really juicy about research (the comment on planners did not really bite) but I guess my industry is too easy to target. Some attending were likely offended well before the comments on women and Creative Directors were finally uttered. I repeated Neil's utterances in our office the morning after. The one person I thought would be most offended simply remarked "Oh, I expect he was just wanting to a get a rise, be controversial and be noticed". It would seem based on his subsequent comments, Neil really believes what he has to say on women and Creative Directors. A lot of people clearly do not and the few who might are keeping pretty quiet. If anything, Neil's utterances may have actually helped the cause of women in seeking Creative Directorships more than hindered. Mind you, it's easy for me to say. Thank you Neil - we expected you to be outrageous and you did not disappoint. Thank you ihaveanidea for staging such an event and a bit of advertising history. I'm really glad I attended. I suspect many more will attend the next one. When is it? Can't wait!
Posted by Mike Gadd
I WANT THE DVD!

When can I get it?

PLEASE :-)


I need to know what happend (couldn't make the trek from Australia)

I'll buy in bulk if I have to!
Posted by NeedToKnow
Regardless of what Mr.French had to say about the role of women in the advertising field...we all have our opinions. I'm sure that if we ask President Bush what his opinion is on oil in the middle east (if he didn't have a pre-typed paper written by Chenney in front of him) we wouldn't get the response we would all wish for...but nonetheless...he's the mcDaddy of America, and Neil is the Big guy of advertising...you get what you ask for...and nobody is 100% politically correct.
I am sure that the event went very well and well enough that I wish I was there to see it.
Posted by Luis Oreamuno
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